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Post by thebruce on Dec 31, 2008 14:14:10 GMT -5
How much protien should you eat??? Lottsa differing views. I believe that a large body can only assimilate and properly use between 7 and 10 grams a meal. Garnered from medical opinion. I certainly exceed that for at least 2 of my 5 meals a day. What do you think and why???
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Post by Harv on Jan 1, 2009 11:38:50 GMT -5
Training hard a minimum should be around 125 grams for a big fellow like yourself.The max should be what you feel comfortable eating. Harvey
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Post by derekspence on Jan 10, 2009 0:23:58 GMT -5
I disagree with a lot of the medical community.
Optimum though I would try and get at least the 30/30/40 split out of my meals ate most.
Meaning, 30% carbs, protein, and 40% fats(mostly good fats though)
Carbs you have to realise are why people are obese.
so you can eat a lot of veggies and still hardly make up the count. just mix it up.
mostly i try 30 grams a meal!!
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Post by Harv on Jan 10, 2009 12:05:28 GMT -5
Derek When you mention the protein you eat at a meal you should qualify it by mentioning that you weigh 350 lbs give or take a pound.A 150 lb person would have a tough time following your diet. Hope all is well. Harvey
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Post by derekspence on Jan 11, 2009 15:30:15 GMT -5
between 338-341 in the wee morning hours, then in the evening about 350 even. depends on fluid intake!!!
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Post by McLifter on Jan 11, 2009 18:03:42 GMT -5
I think that the recommended amount for building muscle is between 1 - 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight. That means that a 250# guy should have between 250 - 375 grams of protein per day. if you divide this by 6 meals it calculates out to 41 - 62.5 grams of protein per meal.
Now looking at this it seems an awful lot of protein. However, consider that you will be consuming this from multiple sources and this will depend on the individual, the amount of work/exercise done on a daily basis as well as how you look and feel. I'll do some more reading and add to this later.
McLifter
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Post by derekspence on Jan 11, 2009 19:24:34 GMT -5
well, yeah. I forgot to mention. I do eat roughly every 2 hours. so that works out to 8-10 meals in a day for me. LOL
but sometimes usually eight. last one is a meal, while the other 2 just before are weight gainers with extra protein.
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Post by thebruce on Mar 2, 2009 16:06:08 GMT -5
I have been eating some meat red and white 3 or 4 times a day eggs once a day and some yogurt and milk once or twice a day. No measurements but I am having what would amount to a supper type meal(meat and veggies) at least 3 times a day with one breakfast type meal 2or3 eggs plus toast or pancakes once a day and fruit milk or yogurt 2 or 3 times a day. I am not gaining a lot of weight I am getting harder and stronger. The trick is the veggies and fruit as well as whole wheat flour or bread. Tons of good food. Oh yeah I still do dessert but only once a day pie cookies etc. If I do to many goodies then I put on some weight. So the lottsa protien crowd gets my vote of confidence. No supplements for protien anyway. Buffered creatine 1 gram pre and post work out as well as glucosamine sulfate 2 grams fish oil 1 gram flax oil 1 gram and 1 gram of vitamin c twice a day. 1 gram of cal mag 2 to 1 at night and tons of water.
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Post by noname2 on Jul 3, 2009 11:36:28 GMT -5
www.canibaisereis.com/download/protein-debate-cordain-camp I just read the Cordain/Campbell “Protein Debate. I recommend it for Cordain’s concise writeup on the evolutionary/archaeological evidence in favor of a high-protein diet. Read Campbell’s stuff for a chuckle, and a good illustration of why nutrition science and the accompanying public policy is such a screwup. A few highlights: Cordain’s paper contains no less than 134 references, and his rebuttal to Campbell contains another 30. Campbell, in support of a low protein, low fat, diet provides, uh, let me count, ZERO citations. He manages a few in his rebuttal to Cordain, but a couple of those are to himself, and only one that I saw appeared to be a peer-reviewed article. He makes some fairly bold statements, like “overwhelming findings on the adverse health effects of dietary protein” and “remarkable healing effects now being routinely accomplished by my clinician colleagues”, again with no citations to supporting peer-reviewed literature. Campbell’s stance appears to be largely one of “because I said so”. The first sentence in his rebuttal is “My critique of Professor Loren Cordain’s proposition almost entirely depends on my philosophy of nutrition”; as opposed, say, to evidence gathered via the scientific method? In fact, he goes so far as to argue in favor of what is essentially sloppy research in nutrition science. The point Campbell is trying (badly) to make is that making precise measurements of the components of a complex system may do little to increase your understanding of it’s overall behavior (look no further than cholesterol research for a good example of “missing the forest for the trees”). But the fact that complex systems often exhibit the “gestalt” of emergent behaviors does not mean we throw the scientific method out the window in favor of “holistic” hand-waving and arguing about whose bullsh*t “philosophy” is superior. BTW, Campbell isn’t just some wacko off the street. He’s the “Jacob Gould Schurman Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry” at Cornell University. So he’s clearly convinced more than a few people that his “philosophy” constitutes sound science bell.pdf
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Post by thebruce on Oct 30, 2009 10:10:16 GMT -5
Good article thanks, Green light for up to 287 grams of protien a day for an average weight male makes my 1 gram per pound of weight diet more than safe. I need meat 2or 3 times a day and eggs at least once along with milk yogurt nuts etc to get that in. Man I love almonds it seems to give me great energy boost(fats) along with the protien they are a daily thing right now.
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Post by mrhyde on Nov 2, 2009 23:15:38 GMT -5
I think that the recommended amount for building muscle is between 1 - 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight. That means that a 250# guy should have between 250 - 375 grams of protein per day. if you divide this by 6 meals it calculates out to 41 - 62.5 grams of protein per meal. Agree, completely. Only when cutting would I exceed the 1.5 g per lbs. of BW. However I normally keep mine around 1.5 grams.
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